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PROPOSED QSY OF IARU REGION-1 BEACONS

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David, G8LZE
Thu Sep 22 2011, 02:01PM
David, G8LZE
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Graham,
Yes, I agree it needs clarification and “cleaning up”.

I think the concept of splitting International and Intercontinental calling may be valid but the present form of words is clumsey.

It was very difficult to follow the proceedings of the C5 committee in Sun City because the audio feed dropped out every 10 to 20 seconds. I guess it should be remembered that a lot of the wording was arrived at by delegates where English was not their first language so a form of words was arrived at that may be less than ideal.

As far as CoAs and calling frequencies are concerned, with a slice of luck the discussion on the 40m bandplan will take place before 6 metre business and the delegates will have vented their collective spleens so a quick consensus can be reached about 6!

I’m a VHF man so used to monitoring a calling frequency for a chink of good propagation, making contact, and QSYing. A good thing about having a CoA is that it stops the band “police” getting agitated if someone sits and QSOs on the “calling” frequency.

I’m confident that these points can be ironed out and at least under the new plan we end up with more bandwidth!

73,
David
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Trev, G3ZYY
Sun Sep 25 2011, 03:18PM
Trev, G3ZYY

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Hi Graham and thanks for your interest. At present there are no details available and we are firmly still at the concept stage. Clearly with beacons sharing a frequency slot there will be a period where any single beacon is not transmitting and we would prefer this to be the minimum necessary. I agree with you that we really don't want very long cycle beacons if we want to minimise the dead time for each beacon.

The whole process will be both a technical and organisational challenge involving, as it will, multiple beacons in multiple countries. UKSMG are likely to play a key role in this and we are keen in the first instance to recruit expertise in this particular field.

I know this doesn't answer your question Graham but its the start of a long and I guess bumpy road before these beacons become active.
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Peter, G8BCG
Wed Apr 16 2014, 06:08AM
Peter, G8BCG
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Hi All, Not sure if anyone will read this but... I have said elsewhere that I think the "new" 50MHz Region 1 Band Plan is 99% nonsense. In particular, moving all of the Region 1 Beacons up the band beyond the known universe is about as useful as closing them down! Moving the beacons up the band has rendered them almost useless as i) they will not be stumbled upon and ii) they will be the last thing to propagate as the F2 MUF creeps up. I recall that at the time of the rule-making a prominent RSGB Committee Member commented that 6m beacons were less important internationally these days as they were always pipped to the post by QRO stations anyway. How wrong can you be!
Last night 15/4/14 ZL1RS spotted ED7YAD/B and within minutes, alerted by this, he had worked EA9 (!) and EA7. Search for EA7YAD on if you want to see how beacons in the bottom of the band perform. What is done is done - but it doesn't make it any less crazy:-( But a public discussion and support from interest groups such as UKSMG might save something of this valuable resource.
[also posted to band plans forum]
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Peter, G8BCG
Mon Jun 16 2014, 09:24AM
Peter, G8BCG
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15/6/2014 OY and JW7 beacons lost in space!
Late in the evening we finally noticed that the OY and JW7 beacons were booming in on there new "might as well be closed down" frequencies! Didn't attract many spots - but did stir up some interesting chat on ON4KST and a reminder from Kerry:

See for more


[ Edited Mon Jun 16 2014, 09:25AM ]
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Dave, M3FXM
Mon Jun 16 2014, 12:26PM
Dave, M3FXM
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Hi Peter, I agree with you in that what's done is done. All we can do now is push forward with the Synchronised Beacon plan to establish a good beacon network at the bottom end of the band. This is my personal opinion of course, hence this post via my other persona
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Tony, I0JX
Sat Sep 13 2014, 10:13AM
Tony, I0JX
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I fully agree with Peter G8BCG that the new allocation of beacons was ill conceived. On the other hand it was decided by a committee ... do you remember the old funny story that a camel is a horse designed by a committee?

Moreover, the beacons that are being transferred to the new range will be badly interfered by italian 50-MHz FM repeaters ( see ), especially during the sporadic-E season. And please do not expect that someone here will be able, or have the authority, to have those repeaters shut down. On the contrary, they are growing like mushrooms.

So, good luck to beacon operators respectful of regulations!

73

Tony I0JX


[ Edited Sat Sep 13 2014, 10:29AM ]
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